this popped up on the age website today, might have to buy the paper tomorrow..... http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
wow just wow
Thats a pretty big lie BUT we should be careful...the only quoted word is "Myth" not vincents whole alledged sentance, he may have used the word in any number of contexts.
that said, its pretty obvious that the WT spins one story to the press and another to the rank and file...probably what vincent did say...but JWs would point out what i just did too.
The heat is certainly being turned up
oz
the following are two emails (one mine, one from an elder) that are part of an exchange regarding the unfairness of shunning.
he is an elder and a substitute of the c.o.
he comes from a "highly decorated" family of jw's.
he gave you the public propaganda answer seeing as you have never been a JW...
Oz
chatter on the street is that there exists a very high possiblility of the new newworld translation being distributed.
it comes from a reliable sources, but who knows.
has anyone heard anything about this?.
perhaps it will be released online only and all the dubs can spend $200 at the local print shop...
cost da corporation nuthin'
oz
hi folks.
that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.
the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .
and what 'robert' really meant was that he needed his family so much that he pretended to love god and obey the governing body in order to have them even check if he was still alive.
It is indeed a cult i now admit
oz
no one will take my intent to da or df seriously.
they called me again (three brothers this time) and asked me to meet with them.
i had no intention of doing so....simply told them there was nothing to talk about.. .
I am sorry to tell you but these men will forget you like you have never been born.
yeah they are nice and soooo full of love for any and all that obey the governing body.
you are now bird food to them, oh they may go 'oh so sad, we tried' to ease their own consciences and please others for about a week, but like i said...
you haven't been born.
Oz
after today's watchtower study which was basically a mind controlling article about shunning your loved disfellowshipped ones, i've come to see just how sick, twisted, vile, rotten, repulsive, disgusting, and just plain evil you all are.
so i stormed out.
i don't know if i'll ever come back to your meetings again.
Good on you for storming out
the only thing that might have made that better would have been to stand up in the middle of the hall and abusing WT soundly first!
oz
this is a project i've started to prove i'm not an apostate: mapping bite to wts.
part one is the first criteria of cult control, behaviour control.
feel free to add to these subheadings too, as many of you were in a lot longer than me and have been in bethel or been elders.. .
not sure how working this out proves you are not an apostate though...
I mean, to the WTBTS and JWs you are automatically an 'apostate' the moment you no longer believe the GB are gods channel.
To the JWs, the BITE model simply is irrelivant because it does not match their own definition in the reasoning book. All other definitions have been customized by opposers to include them.
good work though, and so important to do ones own projects...i did many in order to prove to myself that i was not being duped by ex Jw's.
Oz
Other Craigslist notes "No JWs Please, I can't handle the guilt the next day!" Which begs the question, why are Witnesses who hook-up on Craigslist for quick, naughty and nasty sex, preaching to their sex partners? Are they mentally diseased pioneers putting out to get the message out?
Perhaps they are counting their time while doing the mattress dance...
oz
how would someone photoshop the governing body riding the wild beast from the revelation climax book?
i will print and pass out hundreds if i can get a good photo of this.
let's preach "religion is a snare and a racket" .
The witnesses will see their beloved GB on the wild beast and ignore or destroy the tract
Regular people will see it and have no idea other than that its probably some whacko religions pamphlet and ignore or destroy said tract...
OZ
i have my doubts that they have.my understanding is that only a select few such as elders have got wwcc after years of non compliance.i dont think the rank and file , the majority of jehovahs witnesses going from door to door have obtained one , and if that is indeed the case , then they are still breaking the law.
i would appreciate it if their is anyone in victoria who still attends meetings or knows anybody who does to either confirm or deny my claim.. last year on regional radio abc gippsland talkback radio host celine foenander dealt with the subject who has to obtain "working with children checks" and many callers responded.one in particular stood out to me ,a self employed carpet cleaner had to obtain one before he could continue in his business simply because their could be children at home when he called.their were many similar stories like that.i phoned up and explained to the switch girl about jw`s non compliance.they were very interested in what i had to say but sadly ran out of time and it didn`t go to air.. i`m sure that if the government knew that every baptized jehovah`s witness was considered a minister of religion ,and are required to go door to door to spread their message , then every adult would be required to obtain a wwc check.. i look forward to your comments.
smiddy.
and you will continue to get the runaround smiddy
the victorian state government likes to put its head in the sand when it comes to hot potatoes.
(I can assure that when it comes to bullying in the workplace for example, a major case was kept out of the papers and the magistrate pretty much slam dunked it the same as unthanks case.)
These sorts of cases, if actually allowed to proceed would clog up the court system so bad that they WILL NOT proceed.
The best that can happen is that private citizens keep on banging on the door of anyone that will give ear, until public outcry becomes to loud and goverments are embarressed into change.
In that way, they are not unlike the watchtower or any other corporation...government is about bu$ine$$ and nothing will change unless it hurts the pocket.
Oz
